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Heinz

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Can someone enlighten me? I do not know this and not sure to believe it and don't plan to do it. But.......

Can you use low odor mineral spirits in place of kerosene? Just doesn't sound right to me. Do any of you know?

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I would not recommend it..  see this link, I would imagine the same would apply to our heaters.  http://www.lanternnet.com/faqs.htm  

On a different matter I do use a little Denatured Alcohol in the fount with the Kero and it keeps the wicks "dry" from water.
Heinz

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Thank you Thank you
larryh

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I think some people swear by it, but I tried it and contrary to low odor it had a very unpleasant smell to me.  Haven't read the downs sides of this report, will give that a look as well. 

(well I just tried the link an it came back page unfound)
Heinz

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I just tried it and it worked fine.


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The link you mean right?  Not the Mineral spirits I hope.

Heinz

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the link
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I use my Perfection Heaters regularly and I never use anything but K-1 Kerosene from Speedway or Marathon. Everything I've ever read about Kerosene appliances says to do so.
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Just read this on Miles site:

Combined with a cotton wick, the fuel used must be carefully chosen. Clear 1K kerosene burns cleanly, but "Low Odor Mineral Spirits" burn much more cleanly and give a longer wick life, just as with circular wick lamps of the same vintage, such as the B & H, Rayo, and P & A lamps.

techie

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Mineral Spirits are petroleum, just like kerosene. I suspect most brands are more highly refined than kerosene, especially those designated "odorless". The specifications are quite variable and I would suggest doing some research on the specific product you're interested in using.   

For example Klean-Strip Odorless Mineral Spirits have a flash point >170 F, higher than kerosene, according to the MSDS. The boiling point is 390 to 480F, a relatively narrow range. Crown Low Odor Mineral Spirits have a flash point >104F, at the low end for kerosene and below what some people recommend. The MSDS also says that the composition may vary considerably. 

By comparison Marathon 1-K kerosene has a flash point of 120-190F, and a boiling point of 360-550F. Here's the MSDS

Nevada Ed has done great table showing some of these numbers for a variety of products. I don't know whether he included mineral spirits in his list.
larryh

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Miles has favored mineral spirits for some time as he had suggested it long ago to our group as well.  I tried it but found it to give a rather unpleasant smell. I personally would prefer the kerosene odor to it. Its perhaps an advantage in that it may not have the tendency to form a carbon on the wicks nearly as fast as the newer type EPA mandated kerosene now does.  But still I don't care for the effects on my nose. 

Larry
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Usually Low-odor, or odor-less MS has a higher flash point than 1K kerosene, but as mentioned above it varies considerably. I used to mention this at times with the Aladdin lamp group and on the CCF forum but often they freak out and I rarely will address the subject any more. Techie mentions the important part already, the product has a narrow range of distillates, the low end above he low end of kerosene and it quits before the high end of kerosene, the range fits inside the specs for light kerosene, between the lower and higher limits. One reason I avoid mentioning LO-MS is that at times people do not seem to get the difference between regular mineral spirits and the odorless mineral spirits. At least in my Aladdin lamps the odorless MS burns totally odor free, brighter and is less fussy about the adjustments, something any Aladdin lamp owner knows about. Other than for use in my circular wick lamps it is too expensive and not necessary in a well serviced heater. I should mention too, one brand, maybe Sunnyside odorless mineral spirits had an off odor when burning, but it might have been a different brand.

All this seems less important since the new sulfur content regulations came out over a decade ago. Often it was high sulfur content that made kerosene stink. Those old K-1 and K-2 specifications addressed the allowable sulfur content of #1 and #2 fuels. The terms K-1 and K-2 are still commonly used to refer to the weight of the kerosene as #1 and #2 but really are no longer applicable. Oddly 1K is an unregulated standard that was used to address light weight kerosene with very low sulfur content.

Back in the nineties there was a big rush to find a cheap way to remove 97% of what had been the allowable sulfur content in #1 and #2 fuels to meet the coming new standards. They were concerned about the cost etc. Companies spent a lot of money figuring it out, and came up with a simple and cheap process.

Ed
Heinz

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Thank you Ed very informative.
Handyman

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I have used low oder mineral spirits in my oil lamps( Round wick ,central draft lamps) with good results, but i find that is very expensive to burn it in a heater  due to the larger volume of fuel used.
Dan'l

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I know this is a late post on the subject but it needs some clearing up:

Kerosene, Coal Oil and Mineral Spirits are all the same thing.
Invented in Scotland in the 1840's, "Kerosene" was made from Coal using a distilling process.  It was also called "Coal Oil". After oil was discovered in Pennsylvania, Kerosene made from the refining of oil was made popular by Rockefeller's Standard Oil Co. It was the product that made him rich because his Kerosene was safer to use than his competitor's; hence the name "Standard Oil Co". 
Chemically they're all the same but what sets them apart is the source material...oil or coal. Todays kerosene purchased at gas stations is made strictly from oil. Kerosene purchased at Hardware and home stores is most likely made from coal.
In Mineral Spirits the mineral is coal and the spirit is the end product after distilling.
Call it what you like, you can benefit from the common sense use of Coal Oil by the Amish and now sold everywhere as Low odor mineral spirits. The Amish know what they're doing. They use coal oil (mineral spirits) inside their homes. It burns cleaner and doesn't soot up the walls and ceilings but if you plan to use it for camp fuel in the outdoors, you can use the stinkier kerosene bought at a gas station. ~Dan'l
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